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The other day I picked up a brand new Honda R/R via a friend from Rick’s Motorsport Electrics.  The old regulator/rectifier on the bike had been put on sometime in the last few years and came from a completely different bike.  It works but I thought I might as well put the real deal back on my bike.  The other R/R is now in my trunk as a spare in case of problem on the road.

The new R/R behaves differently than the other R/R.  Now my voltage stays at 14.1 volts no matter how much electrical heated clothing I have running (while the engine is above 3000 RMP).  At idle the bike stays happily in the 12 volt area and doesn’t dip below like the old R/R did.  I think this new one is a lot better than the old.  Hopefully I will get many thousands of miles out of it without incident.

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Yet again I put new antifreeze into the PC800.  This time I put in Prestone Dex-Cool Extended Life.  It is orange.  Good thing there isn’t anything but Aluminum in my bike’s engine.  The IPCRC was pretty set against the generic NAPA brand antifreeze that I had filled the bike with 500 miles or so ago.  It seems that there is a high probability of that brand having silicates or borates in it.  With the PC800, any silicates or borates in the coolant will slowly eat away at the water pump until it doesn’t pump anymore and you end up stranded at the side of the road with an overheated bike on a hot day.

Many of the crowd on IPCRC only use the Honda brand pre-mixed motorcycle coolant.  I chose to get this Prestone stuff on the advice of a couple of the members.  It explicitly states that it doesn’t have any borates or silicates in it, it was much closer and easier to buy the Prestone brand, and it was cheaper.  I suppose I’ll find out if it was the right choice if my water pump goes out someday.  Hope it doesn’t!

This servicing was done at a few hundred miles shy of 45k.

In unrelated news,  my clutch is starting to slip when I really hammer on the throttle at high speeds and sometimes when trying to accelerate quickly through the gears.  Hopefully I won’t have to pull the clutch plates and service it until I get 3k to 5k miles out of the oil that is currently in the engine.  Probably around May I will do that job.

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During the bike overhaul last month I decided to install a cigarette lighter socket on my PC800.  The most logical place to me to install it was in the “glove box” compartment on the left side of the dash.  While buying some antifreeze at the local auto parts store I found the cheapest aftermarket cigarette socket they had and bought it.

Installation was pretty easy.  I found a drill bit that was the right size and popped a hole in the front side of the “glove box.”  The cigarette lighter socket slid right into place and screwed down tight.  I then proceeded to go overboard with the black silicone RTV, covering the ENTIRE length of the outside of the socket with the stuff.  Better safe than a shorted out socket, right?  Right?!?

I ran the wires for the socket around the front of the instrument panel and down the top frame tube on the right side.  I chose to go on that side of the bike because I had another set of wires installed over there for a voltage meter in the dash and figured I might as well put both sets of wires in the same set of zip ties.  Previously I had installed an auxiliary fuse block in the trunk which I wired the cigarette lighter socket into.  I made sure to put a 15 amp fuse (and make everything from there to the socket rated for 15 amps) so that when I get an electrical compressor, I can use the cigarette lighter socket up front.  Most of the ones I’ve seen for sale online require a 15 amp fuse.

Unfortunately I was so excited to install the socket that I didn’t take any photos of the installation process.  Instead, here is a photo of it all done.  The socket and the plug cap are at the top end of the “glove box.”  The screwdriver is so I can pop of my radiator cap to make sure I have enough fluid (replaced the coolant recently).  The two knobs at the bottom at the photo are part of my Heat Troller installation.  It looks like there should be plenty of space in there to charge a cell phone or Ipod while riding.  Wouldn’t recommend doing that in the rain though ;-)

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After some super cold (for western Oregon) weather last month where it hit 8 F at night, I decided it was time to get a few pieces of heated riding gear.  Enter Warm n Safe’s Heat Troller.  Doing some research on the several companies that carry digital riding gear thermostats, I decided to get it from Warm n Safe.  People over at ADVRider really like them and everyone who has used them seems to think they’re a good company.

The installation process went fairly smoothly.  I chose to put the dual controllers and indicator lights in the left dash plastic just above knee level and below the “glove box.”  The template that comes on the instructions for the Heat Troller worked just fine to help me align and drill the holes.  I ended up using the brass spacers that are included in every permanent mount Heat Troller.  There’s a good chance I could have gotten away without using them but by the time I realized that, I had already made the holes too big to turn back.  In the end it worked after adding a washer to each thermostat.  I used it to fill up some extra space.  Oops :-)

While I was putting one of the thermostat controls into its final position I managed to snap off one of the legs on the indicator LED.  A quick trip to my soldering iron and it was all fixed up.  Those little LED legs are fragile!  And also too long for the way I installed it.  I bent mine in kind of a U shape to make the LEDs be at the proper height.

To button up the thermostat installation, I covered both thermostat circuit boards in dielectric grease.  The hope is that by covering them in dielectric grease, I will never have to worry about water or road grime shorting out the Heat Troller.  If you don’t want to use grease, I remember reading (I think) on the Warm n Safe website that clear nail polish works well, too.

And now for a small rant:

I don’t understand why the Heat Troller or any of its competitors doesn’t come with a way to disconnect the thermostat controls from the loooong cables that run back to the Heat Troller control unit.  My installation is such that I will have to take the whole Heat Troller off the bike if I need to take off the dash plastic in the future.  It makes sense to me to add in a couple of connectors near the thermostats.  That way, it would be a snap to disconnect whatever plastic panel the Heat Troller thermostats happen to be connected to.  I’d even pay an extra $10-20 for this feature!

Back to the story…

I found the best place on the bike to mount the Heat Troller control unit box thing is underneath the seat on the left side of the bike.  I used the double-sided sticky tape Velcro stuff right on the gas tank where the big curve in the tank is (at the back by the trunk).  That space is just a big void otherwise.  Might as well fill it with something useful!  This also provides enough length to get the power cable to the battery (or in my case, an auxiliary fuse block in the trunk).

The cables running to the front of the bike were routed up the top left frame tube and zip tied down.  After a couple of rides I pulled the plastic panel off the bike along that frame rail to check to see how everything is doing.  No melting so far!  I guess the real test will come in the summer but judging by the other wires that run along that same path, I shouldn’t have a problem.

Initially I was planning to have the two coaxial plugs that hook to heated clothing from the Heat Troller stick out from under the seat.  I ended up opting to install some BMW plugs on the dash plastic instead.  The reason I did this is for all those days during the year when I don’t need heated riding gear.  On those days I’d much rather have some nice clean socket plug caps than a couple of dangling pigtails sticking out from under the seat or between the body plastics.  Warm n Safe has a nice set of BMW plug sockets and a good set of BMW plug connectors with an 18 inch cable and coaxial plug at the end.  At the same time I also picked up some 12 or 18 inch (I forget now.  Measure it yourself to make sure you’re getting the right one!) coaxial plug cables to extend the reach of the cables up to the BMW plug sockets.

WARNING FOR TALL RIDERS:

In retrospect I wish I had installed the BMW socket plugs up higher on the bike.  The place I ended up putting them (see photos below) is right where my knee goes when I ride.  It isn’t a HUGE annoyance but it is a bit annoying.  I am planning to buy some right angle BMW plugs in the near future to replace my straight-out BMW plugs.  However had I measured 5 times instead of 4 before cutting, I would have put them up higher on the plastic where my knee won’t hit.  If you’re a shorter rider this probably won’t be a problem but if you’re tall, double-check the fitment before you cut plastic.

After I tightened down the BMW sockets, I coated the sockets from top to bottom with silicone RTV sealant stuff.  I chose to use black in case any was visible from outside the plastics.  Now those plugs are water-tight and won’t short out as easily.

Having ridden it for about five hours in cold weather since installing the Heat Troller I can say that I absolutely love having heated gear.  The position of the controller knobs is perfect to reach while riding.  The little LED lights are out of my line of sight when my head is up but it only takes a quick glance down to see the status of the units.  Aside from the minor plug inconvenience, I would say that this installation is a success.  In the future though I think I will add a toggle switch on the dash to quickly kill the power to the Heat Troller.  This will be very useful when I am running my heated gear at full blast and need to stop at a stop sign or stoplight.  No more dangerous voltage drops!

Here are a few photos of the finished installation. I got too excited cutting plastic during the install to remember to take photos of the process.

The controllers and BWM sockets are on the left side mostly obscured by the handle bars.

If I ever install another Heat Troller on another motorcycle, I will be sure to verify that my knee won’t hit the plugs.

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During my recent work on my PC800 I decided to add a Battery Tender Jr harness that is permanently connected to the battery. On other bikes, such as my old VT700, you can just hook some alligator clips to the battery when you want to charge it. In the case of the PC800, there is way way too much plastic in the way to do that easily. This is even more the case in my situation since my bike gets stored outside in a public area under a tarp.

I chose to have the Battery Tender Jr harness stick out from the right passenger foot peg hole. This is a pretty good spot to put it for ease of installation and access for charging. However, it’s been a bit annoying trying to tuck it away and out of sight when I ride. When I get around to carrying a passenger on the bike, I am going to have to figure out how to tuck it away better so they aren’t stepping on the plug. My thought is to push it back into the void behind the plastics and hope that I can fish it out again easily without having to take off any plastic panels.

Not shown in any of these photos (forgot to take pictures before the plastics went back on!) is how I connected to the battery.  Having been super frustrated trying to get both the battery cables and the battery tender harness to allow the screw on the battery terminal to catch the nut (trust me, you’ll know what I mean if you try this), I decided to change the ring terminals on the battery tender harness to spade terminals.  Rather than solder new terminals on, I just cut out a chunk of each of the ring terminals.  Viola!  Spade terminals!  After that, installation was a snap.  I put the battery cables onto the battery screws, loosely tightened them, then slid in the battery tender spade terminals.  Then I cranked down the screws until everything was nice and tight.  The final step was to push the harness connector to where I wanted it and then reassemble the plastics.

If you happen to have suggestions of where else to put my Battery Tender Jr, please let me know!  I’m interested in other options that don’t require modifying the bike, routinely removing plastic parts, and keep the connector tucked away when not in use.

The harness is sticking out from the passenger footrest hole.  In this photo I have it plugged into the battery tender.  When riding, I tuck the plug up and away the best I can.

You can see the plug and cable running back toward the power outlet (through a hole I drilled in a window frame, out of the shot).

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One of these days I should really start using my bike’s proper name (The Tardis)…

Anyway, I put another few ounces of seafoam into my bike’s gas tank today before my ride. The carbs have REALLY opened up a lot since the initial dose a day or two ago. The thing is becoming more and more fun to drive. Also an interesting note: It sounds and rides just the same as when that extra tappet shim was still in the engine. I guess I’m in the clear on that one until I end up with a burnt valve.

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I threw in a few ounces of seafoam to a 1/3 full tank of gas on the PC800 today. Burned through the full tank directly after putting it in. After I did, the bike sure ran better! The ride today also marks the longest ride with the bike back together. At about 44444 miles I put in new cam plugs, came up with an extra tappet shim, replaced the front tire with a brand new Metzler, put in a permanent mount dual heat troller, an auxiliary fuse box, a battery tender, an analog voltage meter, a digital voltage idiot light, a cigarette lighter plug, a battery tender plug, and a master electrical cutoff switch. I also replaced the oil filter with a new Honda brand filter. The oil was replaced with Honda brand oil. The coolant was replaced with generic aluminum-friendly antifreeze from NAPA.

On the radar is replacing the clutch plates, installing stiffer clutch springs, figuring out where the rattle is coming from in the plastics, installing a luggage rack and top box, installing driving lights, and installing auxiliary electrical kill switches. Also in the distant future, getting a hitch put on and a small trailer to haul SCUBA gear around the Northwest with.

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Last week I opened the heads on my Honda PC800 to replace the cam plugs.  It is a relatively straight-forward job.  However, there are three tappets per cylinder that can cause some problems.  Sometimes the tappets won’t release from the head cover until it is in just the right position for a tappet or tappet shim to fall into the engine.  That happened to me.  Or I thought it did.  The missing tappet surfaced after I started hammering on the oil filter with a screwdriver to get it to come loose.

I thought I was in the clear but then after I reassembled the heads I discovered an extra tappet shim!  This could be a problem but I’m not entirely sure.  I reassembled the engine enough to listen for any bad noises.  The video below is what it sounds like now.  What do you think? Am I in the clear or do I need to rip apart the heads to check tappet height?

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This is when I had the back head cover off.

This is the bike together enough so I can try firing it up. It took about two or three minutes of cranking and recharging the battery with the trickle charger for life to come back to the PC800.

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I’m getting ready to install several electric gizmos on my Honda Pacific Coast. To prepare I decided to install an auxiliary fuse block. The local marine supply shop happened to have a Blue Sea Systems ST Blade Fuse Block (PN: 5025). I bought it and brought it home. This specific unit has both a positive and a negative block. The negative is simply a large grounding plate while the positive side has six independent fuses. On several websites I have seen people using various Blue Sea Systems fuse blocks.

Safety Warning: I’m sure I don’t have to tell you but anything you do or don’t do due to this page, the photos on the page, the text, or anything else that in any way involves me is done at your own risk.  Doing these modifications voids any and all warranties on any and all devices that you own.  This can be a fire hazard, can cause death and dismemberment, can make your significant other leave you, and might make you become an alcoholic.  This worked for me but might not work for you.  Your mileage may vary.  Proceed at your own risk!

Synopsis: I sawed a fuse block in half, applied liberal quantities of silicon RTV, and stuck the two halves into the trunk of my bike.  It’s not super pretty but it works and was done with the parts I had on hand.  You will need a Blue Sea Systems fuse block P/N 5025.  It costs about $40.  You will also need silicon RTV, extra blade fuses, 14 gauge or larger wire to run between the battery and the fuse block (2 or 3 feet of black and of red), an automotive relay and wire harness (under $20 at your local auto parts store) if you want the power to be killed while your bike is off, various miscellaneous connectors and splices, and a hack saw.  A flat file is optional.

This is the unit straight out of the packaging.  It comes with one 15 amp fuse and a plastic cover.  I put a roll of tape next to it for size comparison.  Ignore the red bits of wire insulation in the photo.  My Roomba is going to be very busy vacuuming those bits up!

From the side.  The right three screws are for ground wires while the left three are fused.  This is mirrored on the other side.  The wires that feed the positive and negative buses come in at the ends of the unit.  With the plastic cover on, each feed wire can be placed either right, left, or straight out from the unit.

Being inquisitive, I took the unit apart to see what was inside.  As you can see, the ground side (left) is just a big piece of metal (copper coated in tin or something along those lines that doesn’t rust in salt air).  The right side contains the fuse blocks and is individually isolated.  Being segregated into two sides like this will become important in another few photos.

After looking around for a happy place to mount the fuse panel on the bike I decided to put it in the trunk area.  Everywhere else I looked I either already had something, it wouldn’t fit, or I would never be able to change a fuse.

Hmm it doesn’t fit.  However, looking at it in this position gave me an idea.  What if I cut it in half and split the two sides on either side of the gas spring for the trunk lid?  This looks like a good afternoon project!

This poor table sure does take a beating.   Yesterday I was soldering on it.  Today I’m using a hacksaw.  If my ex knew what would happen to it, she probably would have never let me borrow the table!

I cut down the center where there happened to be a natural saw-guide molded into the plastic.  Pretty sure this voided my warranty and means I can’t return it if I decide I don’t like it.

Cutting the bottom in twain.  Without the bottom, the fused terminals wouldn’t stay put.  Again there is a convenient set of guides to keep the saw going straight and true.

All the pieces cut apart.

I used a flat file to clean it up a little bit.  If you aren’t bothered by rough edges, this step can be skipped.  The only reason I did it was I figured I might want to sell this motorcycle someday in the distant future.

Next stop, Silicon RTV city!  In case water ever gets in and tries to muck things up or some insects decide they need a warm little nest I decided to block up the cut ends of the two sides of the fuse block.

Lots of RTV filling up the spaces.  I made sure to not inject the RTV in far enough to come in contact with the terminals.  If that RTV got into the fuse blocks, they might not work correctly.

I did a test fit and found that the two halves still didn’t quite fit.  Back to the hack saw!  This time I trimmed off the corner on the negative buss block.  The fused buss block required having the whole front edge hacksawed off. For some reason I didn’t take a picture of it.  If you happen to actually try doing this crazy mod, do a few test fits and you’ll figure out what to do.

More RTV to keep the buggies out.

Fitting the two halves into the trunk compartment.  I used a LOT of RTV to attach the buss block and fuse panel to the trunk plastic.  You might want to use screws or some other form of adhesive.  I just happened to have a tube of RTV at my disposal and wasn’t afraid to use it.

Looking down at the finished install with the trunk closed and the passenger seat removed for a better view.  Both halves of the fuse block fit snugly on either side of the gas shock.  I am running wires between the frame and the wheel well/fender plastic.  My messy wiring and relay are zip-tied to the piece of metal that attaches between the frame and the gas tank.  I purchased a cheap automotive relay and harness from the local auto parts store.  Any auto parts store will have one for under $20.  The fuse block has a fuse between it and the battery.  It’s located down by the battery and is accessible when the trunk is open.  I put a 30 amp fuse on the entire auxiliary fuse block because of the size of the wire I used and because if I’m using that much, I have a big, big problem.

One final view of the completed installation.  The wiring hadn’t been tidied up in this picture yet.  It looks marginally neater now.  All in all I am very happy with this modification.  The only downside is that you lose the protective plastic cover.  But with the trunk closed I’m not too worried about water dripping or splashing into the space.  My passenger and driver seat both have plastic wrap installed to prevent leaks.

If you find these photos useful, do it yourself, have questions, or anything else, please drop me a comment below!  Send me some photos of how you installed yours and I’ll put them on this page.  And remember, YMMV.

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Have you ever wanted to install a battery disconnect switch on your motorcycle? No? Neither did I until I saw a picture of what happened to “White Satin” when some joyriders got hold of it. My first thought was to install a battery disconnect switch. No juice means no starter means either the thief has to push-start the bike (difficult but not technically impossible and something the typical joyrider probably wouldn’t do) or needs a truck and several strapping accomplices to pick it up (unlikely). Thus this project was born.

SAFETY NOTE: All photos, text, innuendos, and anything else on this site could easily kill you, make your dog three legged, blow up your motorcycle, maim an entire school bus full of kindergarteners, not to mention void any and all warranties within 1000 yards.  I can’t be held liable for anything you do or do not do based on what is on this site.  Everything is done at your own risk and at your own peril.  Your mileage may vary.  Don’t do this unless  you know what you are doing.  In fact, back away slowly from the internet and go read a good book.  Or take a walk in the park.  Or ride your motorcycle.

Now that the warning is out of the way… A quick synopsis:

This project installs a battery cutoff switch in the trunk of a Honda PC800 Pacific Coast.  It disconnects the positive terminal of the battery from the bike’s electrical system.  The entire project took me half a day, most of which was spent running around town for parts.  The switch cost about $30, the battery wire cost about $5, the lugs and misc bolts cost around $10.  You will need a hole saw, a file, a 1/4″ drill bit, an electric drill, a soldering iron or large crimping tool, and some luck.  Now that you know what’s involved, read on to see the saga unfold!

The first step to this project was finding a suitable battery cutoff switch.  Rather than buy an automotive unit, I opted for a marine grade cutoff switch.  This was mainly due to looking in a marine catalog for an auxiliary fuse panel (more on that in another future post) that marine supply stores often carry.  One thing led to another and I ended up ordering a Blue Seas Systems battery switch with key (P/N: BLU6005).  I chose this one over the many other options from Blue Seas Systems and elsewhere because the price was right and I thought the key might be a nice feature.  In hindsight I wish I had gone with a non-keyed version.  The key sticks out into the trunk a bit much.

After a week of waiting the local marine supply store had my order in.  Here it is in all its glory.  The thing was a wee bit bigger than I had imagined.  And I had already paid for it and couldn’t return it.  Oh well I guess I’ll make do!

As I was fiddling with the switch I discovered something useful.  The plastic cover on the rear of the unit detaches.  That shroud is very useful in a marine application where there is a lot of salt spray coming in from three sides.  Since it will be hidden under the PC800 plastics, it probably doesn’t matter as much.  Well, at least I hope it won’t matter as much.

Since the battery is on the ride side of the bike near the trunk, and not wanting to slice into the plastics, I decided to try and mount the switch in the void between the plastics and the trunk.  This is the first test fit before I cut any holes.  Using a very accurate measuring device (my finger), I determined that the terminals would fit behind the plastics and not interfere with anything.

The next step was to start cutting into the trunk.  Now before you carry out this step yourself, you have to ask yourself: are  you willing to compromise that nice water-tight seal?  Are you willing to screw up a irreplaceable and priceless Honda Motorcycles artifact?  If your answer is yes, then bring out the drill!  In this photo  you can see where I made a pilot hole indicating the center of the switch.  To figure out where it should go, I jammed the switch into the space and used a sharpie (notice the black marking near the hole) to try and trace an outline around the nose of the switch.  Not the most accurate method in the world but it works.

Here you can see the hole from the right side of the trunk.  Those two sets of wires protruding into the trunk and sealed with clear RTV are for a battery tender and in case I ever need to jump the bike (or someone else’s) or if I have the charging system go out, have access to a car battery, and really need to ride somewhere.  Ignore them for now.

As you might have seen in the photos of the battery disconnect switch, it has a circular face that indicates where on and off are.  The packaging indicated several ways to mount the device.  I chose to mount it so that face is visible.  It also makes it so the switch terminals don’t hit any of the bike’s tupperwear shell.  This photo shows me drilling into the trunk using a hole saw.  The face of the switch that I bought is 2.3 inches in diameter.  My hole saw was slightly undersized.  Due to some technical difficulties with my car (leaking antifreeze from the coolant reservoir), I opted not to go to the local home improvement store and find the right size.  More on the ramifications of that in a few photos…

Pro-tip: while drilling the hole for the battery switch, do be careful of any wiring harnesses or other important bits that might be in close proximity.  I caught this important tidbit of information just before I would have drilled through two rather important-looking harnesses.

Here is the hole all cut out and pretty.  However it is too small for the switch.  The only way to get it to fit was to use a round file and slowly work away at widening the hole.  After about a half hour of work (the home improvement store was more than a half hour walk away and doesn’t have bicycle racks), I had a correctly sized hole.  It isn’t that pretty (as seen in later photos) but it works.  If you are a neatnick, I suggest getting the right size of hole saw for the job.  Otherwise work with what you have and make liberal use of RTV sealant (as seen in a few more photos).

During my first test-fit I discovered that the battery box/trunk piece of plastic interfered a bit with battery disconnect switch placement.  A bit of work with a tin snip and it was fixed.  NOTE: I am damaging my plastics a bit in this photo.  That bit of plastic connected to the trunk has a crack in it near the bottom of the photo that allows me to bend it like I am to get the tin snips in position.  If you don’t want to have this fate befall your plastics (mine was already like this so no biggie for me), I suggest finding a better tool.  Maybe a Dremel Tool with a cutting wheel or something similar.  I didn’t have one so this is what I did.

There it is all happy and in place!  The myriad of plastic shavings is as a result of having to file the hole quite a bit to get it to fit.  If you click on the photo to see the much larger-sized version of it, you can see that the hole isn’t the prettiest thing in the world anymore.  It’s in the trunk though so hey, who’s ever going to know except me and my many thousands of internet Pacific Coast friends!

At this point in the process you have a choice to make.  Either you can figure out how to secure the switch with just that one big hole (gorilla glue?  zip ties?  magic?) or you can drill four holes to run bolts through.  I chose the later approach as it seemed more secure to me.  Considering the terminals will be carrying 12VCD directly from the battery to the bike, it would be like an arc welder if the terminals ever came in contact with the frame of the bike.  And considering that the battery is right there as is the gas tank, explosion could very well result.  In this photo you can see the crude template I made to try and figure out where to drill the holes for the bolts.  I used a 1/4″ drillbit I happened to have in the bottom of my toolbox.

Here it is with the holes for the bolts drilled.  They didn’t end up in quite the right spot so I wallowed the holes out a bit.  More RTV sealant to the rescue!  You also might notice some black sharpie marks near the holes.  I first tried to guesstimate where the holes would be but decided that this would not be the best of approaches unless I wanted REALLY wallowed out holes.

A quick run to the hardware store later and I had some nice M6 bolts, nuts, and washers.  However the switch only has holes big enough for M5 bolts.  Why would I buy too big of bolts?  Because the nuts that the hardware store had for M5 were too small compared to the built-in retainers in the switch.  Those retainers help to keep the nuts from spinning… at least at first.   A bit of drilling out the plastic holes and all was right.  I’m sure this just voided any warranty that came with that switch.

In this photo you can see me holding onto the nut from the back of the switch with a wrench.  It was rather difficult to do this although necessary.  I chose to use nylock-style (nylon inside the nut to keep it from backing off due to vibration or whatever) nuts.  Those nuts have a lot of resistance to them.  I ended up spinning the nuts in the pliable nut retention setups on the back of the switch.  On the front side I used an allen wrench to get the job done.

Here it is installed.  Note that I used allen head bolts.  In retrospect I wish I had gotten button head allen bolts or something similar.  It probably would have looked a little nicer.  Also I cut one corner that might come back to bite me in the trunk at a future date.  Rather than buying stainless steel fasteners, I just used normal steel.  Lets hope I don’t end up regretting that!

As you can see, it tucks nicely into that little space between the trunk, the plastics, and the frame.  Like it was meant to be!  Maybe the brilliant Honda engineers that created our bikes had even thought of putting such a device there.  No, you’re right.  They wouldn’t be that crazy.

Here it is with the trunk closed.  Nothing hits or interferes.  Looks like we’ve got a winner!  Plus in case the switch ever fails open and your trunk is broken, you can get to it to hotwire around it with only several pieces of plastic needing to be removed from the bike.  For those of you worried that a thief might do this, I sorta doubt it unless he or she knows the PC800 plastic removal flowchart like the back of his or her hand.

At this point I caught something very, very important.  Se those little fine shavings of plastic sitting on the exhaust?  Make sure to clean them off.  Otherwise next time you warm  up your bike you might get some plastic cooked on.

Next step: RTV the heck out of the hole!  We all want waterproof trunks and the only way to try to assure that our trunks remain this way with this modification is through liberal use of silicone sealant.  Of course who knows if it will really keep water out or not… the tube said “Water Resistant.”

Here it is all caulked up.  I put liberal caulking around the bolts as well as the switch.  If you’re really paranoid (and have smaller hands than me), you can also caulk the switch from the back side.  However I figured that was probably overkill.

As you might have guessed, the stock battery cables on our bikes won’t work for this battery switch setup.  Thus it’s time to make some new cables!  The local auto parts store had a good deal on some 4 gauge battery wire (the red and black wire in this photo) and the lugs to put on the ends.  I bought two feet of red and two feet of black.  In hindsight, there was no reason for this project to need black wire.  If anyone needs some black 4 gauge battery wire, let me know!

You might be asking yourself: what is that monstrosity in the middle of that photo?  Three vice grips?  What on earth is that for?  Well my internet friends, that is my battery lug soldering station!  I don’t have a table-top vice so I made one out of three vice grips.  Before you go try this I should remind you that anything you do that is inspired or not inspired by me, my photos, this text, or anything else isn’t my fault.  Of course if you make money off of it and want to give me some royalties, I won’t complain :-)

The guy at the local auto parts store is the one to blame for turning me onto the idea of soldering the lugs onto the battery wire.  Evidently this is what they do for semi trucks and tractors.  I thought I’d give it a shot since I don’t have a proper crimping tool for battery lugs and didn’t want to beat on them with a hammer.  The PC800 has all crimped connections stock and there is general consensus in the automotive industry that crimps hold better over time than solder joints.  In other words maybe you want to try crimping rather than soldering.  I chose the more badass approach.  Hence why there is a cheap hobbyist soldering iron sticking out of a copper battery lug held in place by three vice grips on a folding vinyl-covered table in my kitchen above the linoleum floor.

Yeah, I like to live dangerously.  The vinyl-covered table sustained some nice solder burns as did the floor.  Also I nearly set off the building smoke alarm system.  At the last minute I realized the room was filling with blue smoke and popped open a few windows and doors.  Be sure to do this in a well-ventilated area, boys and girls.

To determine when the battery lug is sufficiently hot enough to melt solder, touch a piece to the outside of the lug and see if it melts.  As you can tell by the curl of smoke coming up from the burning rosin core, it is hot enough.  At this point remove the soldering iron and fill the hollow part of the lug with solder.  Oh yeah, make sure if you’re doing the solder method to buy lugs that have sealed pockets.  Otherwise you’ll get solder all over the place.  Once the pocket is full of solder, try and flick out the excess rosin now floating at the top of the molten solder with the tip of the iron.  If memory serves (from a middle school electronics class), the smoke that the rosin puts out is toxic.  As is the lead in the solder.  Don’t let your kids to this step.

Now take your battery cable (make sure to pre-strip the wires back far enough) and shove it quickly into the molten solder.  Actually before you do this with the real battery cable, try it out with a test piece first so you get the hand of it.  When the cable goes into the solder, make sure it goes in all the way.  I ended up having to reheat one of the lugs when the cable only made it half-way in.  The solder should visibly flow into the copper wire.  You might need to put more solder into the lug once the wire is in place.  When in doubt, add more solder and more heat.

Here are the cables completed.  Each cable has a small lug and a large lug.  The large lugs are 3/8″ (If I remember correctly) while the smaller ones I eyeballed in the store.  You might want to take actual measurements to make sure you’re getting what you need.  Be sure the lugs match the bolts and the wire gauge.  Oh, and you are probably wondering what lengths of wire I used.  The tiles on the floor are 12 inches long.  That should give you a rough estimate.  I determined what length to use by stuffing the battery wire into the bike to see how long it needs to be.  I marked it with a sharpie to cut it to length.  The shorter cable will go from the cutoff switch to the main fuse/relay.  The longer cable will go between the switch and the battery.  I chose to make the wire longer than it absolutely needs to be so that it can be connected and disconnected with the battery most of the way out of the bike.  We’ll see if that proves to be a good choice or not the next time I have to pull the battery out of the bike.

Here is the wire between the switch and the fuse/relay installed.  I put some dielectric grease on the terminal and lug.  I also added some electrical tape around the lug.  Be sure to not let the dielectric grease to migrate between the two lugs.  That would sort of defeat the purposes of the switch and potentially make it catch on fire.

UPDATE: I have been reeducated by a fellow member of the IPCRC.  It turns out that dielectric grease is an insulator so no worries on having the grease short out anything.  Also you don’t need it on this sort of terminal except for corrosion prevention.  Here is some good information on dielectric grease. What I wrote before is funny enough (to me anyway) that I’m going to keep it and not change it, just post this update.

As I was getting ready to install the wire onto the switch/relay, I discovered that Honda made the place where the connection goes a bit too small for a normal lug.  The lug that they used is correctly sized.  The lug that I used didn’t fit.  Thus I used a pair of dikes to cut the lug down to fit.  It’s now more of a 3/4 ring connector… But it will work!

Here it is all wired into the fuse/relay.  Make sure to align the wire so that the dust cover will still work.  I’m not sure what would happen if that dust cover isn’t there but it would probably be bad news bears.

All done and in place.  It almost looks stock!  In the future I will probably be mounting an auxiliary fuse panel in the space next to the relay/fuse.  That is for another day and another post though.

Here is the switch with the second wire (batter -> switch) installed.  I also put some dielectric grease on that lug.  Again, make sure the grease from the two sides doesn’t touch.  I think the result would be something akin to what happened in Ghost Busters when the beams crossed.  (SEE THE UPDATE ABOVE.  NO BEAMS WILL CROSS.)

The cable that connects to the battery can be seen on the right side of this photo.  Lots and lots of length to get that battery in and out.

All installed and ready to go! You might notice a couple of smaller wires just sneaked into the battery side of the lug. Those go to a battery tender junior plug and a bare wire used for jump-starting that are hidden in the trunk. Depending on your setup and uses, you might want these wires connected on the other side of the switch.  This is also where you would install an auxiliary tap to run a 12 volt clock or alarm system that needs a permanent connection to the battery.  The lug on the switched side would be a good place to put a wire for an auxiliary fuse panel or a heat troller.  No need to mess with directly wiring to the battery that way.

So there you have it folks.   A step-by-step procedure on how to add a battery disconnect switch to  your bike.  Hopefully this will help someone from getting their bike stolen by joyriders.  Maybe it will even save someone from draining their battery when the bike isn’t in use.  It’s not like you really need that voltage gauge displaying the charge of the bike all the time anyway, right?  If you do end up doing this mod, send me a photo or two and I’ll post them at the bottom of this page.  Or for that matter, if you have any questions or comments, drop me a line in the comments section.  Heck, if you need more photos of any of this let me know and I’ll see what I can do.  Good luck and YMMV!

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