New Regulator/Rectifier for the PC800

The other day I picked up a brand new Honda R/R via a friend from Rick’s Motorsport Electrics.  The old regulator/rectifier on the bike had been put on sometime in the last few years and came from a completely different bike.  It works but I thought I might as well put the real deal back on my bike.  The other R/R is now in my trunk as a spare in case of problem on the road.

The new R/R behaves differently than the other R/R.  Now my voltage stays at 14.1 volts no matter how much electrical heated clothing I have running (while the engine is above 3000 RMP).  At idle the bike stays happily in the 12 volt area and doesn’t dip below like the old R/R did.  I think this new one is a lot better than the old.  Hopefully I will get many thousands of miles out of it without incident.

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  1. Scott Schuyler’s avatar

    So how would you rate the R/R change? I think I’ve got to do that to my bike pretty soon. Looks like you’ve got all the Tupperware off…not fun.

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    1. DouglasVB’s avatar

      I think the new R/R is fine. It reads about a half volt lower than the non-stock R/R that was on before. So instead of 14.5 like the old one read, the new one reads 14 or 14.1 at speed. When I load it down with a set of Gerbinger gloves and heated socks from Warm n Safe at 100% on my heat troller, it pulls the voltage down to 13.8 or 13.9 when at speed.

      The place I have my voltmeter attached isn’t directly hooked to the battery so it is probably a few tenths of volts below what the battery actually sees. I still carry the non-stock R/R in my trunk in case I run into problems.

      I also have noticed as the temps have gotten above 50 degrees in Oregon that the voltage meter will dip down to 13.8 or so when the engine is hot and I’m running at highway speeds. Guessing that’s the way the R/R responds to heat. I’m thinking about relocating it somewhere with cooler airflow or putting a dedicated fan on it for summer riding.

      The tupperwear disassembly and reassembly was pretty intense. I’m going to have to pop it off again soon. I’ve got a leak on the right side.

      If you aren’t aware, check out pc800.net. It’s the riders group for PC800s!

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      1. greg miller’s avatar

        I am trying to get my voltage reg off and i cant budge the phillip head screws …. dont want to strip the heads and i cant tell if there is a nut on the other side that i could break over…. have a 1990 and never had to replace b4….any suggestions?

        thanks

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        1. DouglasVB’s avatar

          Hi Greg,

          Get a JIS screwdriver (you can order them from McMasterCarr such as: http://www.mcmaster.com/#jis-(japanese-industrial-standard)-screwdrivers/=7bxh5i ). Or if you can find a JIS screwdriver bit, you can use an impact hammer/wrench to try and free the screw. As I recall on my ’89, thee nut behind the screw is welded to the frame.

          Have you put penetrating oil on the screw? Something like WD-40 or one of the many brands of miracle oil? Might be worth a shot… If worse comes to worse and you strip the thing out, you should be able to buy a tool that will help you get it out. Then you might consider zip tieing the new R/R in place rather than screw it unless you can recover the threads on the welded-on nut.

          My $0.02, anyway!

          Cheers,

          Douglas

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          1. DouglasVB’s avatar

            I am now dubious about the McMaster Carr “JIS” screw drivers. The set that came to me recently appears to be more like JIS drivers but I don’t think they are actual, in-the-flesh JIS. I guess that means I’ll continue to search for real JIS drivers. :-(

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  2. Mike’s avatar

    The only Tupperware you have to pull is the left air vent if you like working in small spaces. If you want more room take off the side panel. The screw is under the air vent. As you pull the side panel off make sure that you help it from the back. If you pull the front out to far before pulling the back out you will brake the pin off.

    The whole job is 10 to 15 mins.

    Mike

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    1. DouglasVB’s avatar

      Right you are! My earlier tupperwear disassembly comment was based on all the other work that I was doing at the same time.

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